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Reason for Gunman’s Rampage Unknown: Planned Parenthood Shootings in Colorado Springs

Robert Lewis Dear, 57, of North Carolina, yielded to law enforcement following a five-hour ordeal Friday in which he dressed in hunting gear, fired shots haphazardly at people in the Planned Parenthood clinic and wandered the halls shooting through walls with an assault-style rifle.

Amy Wesley
Active shooter in Colorado Springs
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  • Donald Mack Flippin

    When society diminishes the value of human life, why
    are the members of that society surprised to learn that
    the value of life has been diminished?

    • Man’s Ruin

      The same could be said for your IQ. Thanks for excusing terrorism and mass murder, though.

      • Thomas Hood

        Abortion is mass murder.

        • Man’s Ruin

          The two “mass murders” occurring in this situation was the actual shooting, and the self-inflicted murder of your own brain cells. It is astonishing that you do not seem to understand the difference between killing random people and the use of birth control. But hey, thanks for publicly providing cover for the mass shooter and killer of police: I’m certain your equivocation of the two has led you to be placed on at least one national watch list, if you weren’t there already. That’s the great thing about you extremists: you’re not even bright enough to understand how the intertube/Google-machine works, really.

          You should consider joining ISIL. You’d have to get used to using a different name for your angry, mythical sky wizard but otherwise you would be right at home with their perspective. Carry on, brave “pro-life” warrior!

          • Thomas Hood

            Abortion is mass murder. If you approve of it, you belong in ISIL. Unlike your name, my name is real. Contact me and I will help pay your travel expenses to Syria.

          • Christopher Furlong

            No, sorry, murder is a legal concept which only applies to individuals.

            Always has been that way, no matter how much you pervert the meaning.

          • Thomas Hood

            > It is astonishing that you do not seem to understand the difference between killing random people and the use of birth control.

            Abortion is neither a birth control medication or a condom, although I doubt liberal perverts can tell the difference.

          • Christopher Furlong

            Your perversion of the meaning of the word “baby” instead of “fetus” highlights your perverted view of women.

          • Thomas Hood

            Let me guess, you have avoided pay child support (that is, fatherhood) by taking your woman to an abortion clinic? Doesn’t that make you feel good?

          • Christopher Furlong

            No, I cherish people, unlike you and your ilk who throw the poor out on the street, pay low wages, and murder millions of foreigners,

          • haltdenmund

            More word parsing from the left. Since those supporting your viewpoint here like to use the dictionary to defend killing a “fetus” – it’s not murder because it isn’t a baby! Here’s a definition for you: Birth control, also known as contraception and fertility control, are methods or devices used to prevent pregnancy. Notice the word PREVENT. Abortion by definition is not birth control as pregnancy has already occurred. So it is really you who cannot understand the difference between murder and birth control.

        • dale ruff

          That is the very idea that motivates mass murderers like Dear.
          Such ideas justify murder.

          • Thomas Hood

            Such ideas justify a sane, healthy society. Let me guess. Your mother did not abort you, no matter how inconvenient you were then or now. Most abortions occur because of pressure from boyfriends or parents, not because the woman wants an abortion. Stop abortion on demand and stop Liberal legalized mass murder.I favor abortion in rape and forced incest, but these cases are exceeding rare and do not justify abortion for anyone who has the money to pay for it. In this matter the ancient Hebrews were right: choose life.

          • drchemy

            It’s none of your business. Besides abortions are induced everyday from users of any form of chemical birth control especially the mini pill.

            If you really want to reduce the number of abortions vote for liberal candidates who want to improve social benefits for the poor. Poverty is the number one reason people get abortions.

          • + 1000

          • Christopher Furlong

            No, sorry, murder only applies to people. Fetuses are not people, by definition.

            Please consult the dictionary for further information.

          • Bravadu

            “Most abortions occur because of pressure from boyfriends or parents, not because the woman wants an abortion.”

            Do you have a source?

            Believe it or not, lots of women WANT to have babies. No one is forcing them to get abortions.

            I think women should be allowed to have that choice.

          • Thomas Hood

            Yes, I do have a source. I am an old guy and do not suffer young fools gladly. There has been abortion in the family, and my female relatives talk to me. One aunt, not by her choice, was aborted by a doctor at great expense, thousands in Depression era money, because her mother, my grandmother, did not want an illegitimacy in the family, a great stigma at the time. Maybe 30 years ago when abortion was being debated in the USA, there was a news program, maybe 60 Minutes, in which women at an abortion clinic in England were asked why they had come in for an abortion. Not a one of them said, “I am here because I want an abortion.” It was always, “My boyfriend is making me do this” or “My family is making me do this.” That is the reality of unregulated abortion. Women are pressured by others into having an abortion they do not want, and yet Liberals pretend that abortion is a woman’s choice.

          • Christopher Furlong

            This happens sometimes, of course. But otherwise this is an example of cherry picking example the example which best supports your opinion.

          • Thomas Hood

            Such is the life experience that forms my opinions. Those who do not have such experience become victims of Liberal-dominated mass media. Their minds are no more their own than are the wombs of women who abort because of social pressure.

          • Christopher Furlong

            Well, that’s a life experience that you should expand. Women abort for a variety of reasons.

          • Thomas Hood

            Like what?

          • Thomas Hood

            That is the Liberal technique: pretend there is no reality except for the Liberal created veil of words. There is no horse, there is no tree. There are only the socially defined concepts of horse and tree. Social reality is the real. There is no reality but Liberal thinking makes it so. There is no baby, only abortable fetuses. Dale Ruff does not exist except as an abortable concept. Get real. You’ve too much or too little education. Anyway, you aren’t on my list of of those who merit protection. Probably you favor abortion as an alternative to paying child support, as many men do.

          • dale ruff

            A baby is defined as “a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.”

            A fetus is a medical term to describe an embryo within a woman’s body.

            These are not liberal social constructs but commonly understood medical terms.

            I favor allowing women to control their own bodies, period.

            Most women do NOT have abortions because their boyfriends won’t pay child support. That is an illusion.

            You can continue to confuse babies with fetuses, pretending it is a liberal word game. Or you can understand that birth control is the best way to prevent abortions and that only women have the right to decide what to do with their own bodies. Neither the state nor meddling men like you have any right to tell a woman what to do with her own body.

            If you continue to insist that a fetus is a baby, I suggest you consult a medical textbook and educate yourself. Human rights belong to individuals. A baby is an individual; a fetus is part of a woman’s body and the human rights belong to her.

          • haltdenmund

            Stop splitting hairs. It matters not whether you call it a fetus and not a baby. IT IS A LIFE. You condon the taking of another life, period.

          • Bravadu

            It is not a viable life until it is born, so it’s not a baby until it’s born.

            Until it’s born, it’s a parasite that is dependent upon the woman’s choice. If she wants to keep it, great. Otherwise it should be her choice, not yours.

          • haltdenmund

            Wrong. Almost all fetuses are viable before full gestation. Careful what arguments you rely on. When medical science reaches the point that any fetus can survive outside a mother’s womb – by your definition they will all be alive – and thus any abortion would be murder.

          • Bravadu

            Do you realize that you just contradicted yourself? You just said that medical science has not reached the point that fetuses are viable before full gestation.

            And if medical science reaches the point…. except it hasn’t, so lets talk about right now rather than hypothetical. Because if you wanted to talk about hypotheticals, I think it’s more fun to talk about time machines.

          • haltdenmund

            You are having difficulty with context I see. Apparently with syntax as well. I think it’s more fun to point out your poor understanding of the English language, but I will digress and correct you on your “gotcha” fail. I did not contradict myself. By your definition, “it” is a “only” a fetus prior to birth. Thus it follows that every live birth must ipso facto be a fetus immediately prior to delivery, and hence is viable before full gestation (i.e. birth). QED.

          • Bravadu

            you are trying to replace the “before” in “Almost all fetuses are viable before full gestation” to “immediately prior to”

            Thus changing a 9 month window into a 1 hour window.

            No one is aborting a fetus 8 months, 29 days and 23 hours into a pregnancy… although I have read about a newly born baby being left in a dumpster.

          • Christopher Furlong

            No, it is not “a life”. The article “a” means that it is independent of its mother. It is not “a life” until the mother chooses to give birth to it.

          • haltdenmund

            aaaaand the hair is split once again……

          • Christopher Furlong

            There is no hair splitting going on here. The simple meaning of “a” assume the individuality of an object.

          • dale ruff

            The difference between a fetus,which is part of a woman’s body and a baby, which is not is not a hair. It is the difference between one body and two.

            I support the right of women to control their own bodies. A baby is not part of anyone’s body and has human rights.

            You condone controlling a woman’s body.

        • drchemy

          Sounds like you are turning into a domestic terrorist. You certainly sound like someone who could easily “radicalize” young conservative catholics

        • Christopher Furlong

          Supporting invasions for oil is murder.

          • haltdenmund

            Your annual supply of Kool-Aid just arrived. Keep on drinking!

          • Christopher Furlong

            Thou shall not kill.

        • Wow. Somebody better check you out as well, you may be the next Dear in the headlights of carnage caused by the lying Faux News and Carly Fiorina.

      • Donald Mack Flippin

        Ruined Man – Speaking of mass murder: How many
        babies were murdered in the targeted PP clinic the
        day before this mentally ill individual went on his one-
        man rampage? How many were murdered in the week
        prior to said incident?

        • Christopher Furlong

          Zero. Fetuses are not babies. Please consult the dictionary to learn the meaning of the word ‘baby”.

          Thanks!

          • Donald Mack Flippin

            Fetuses are not babies, and abortionists are not humans.
            Please look up the word ‘humans’ in the dictionary, and note
            that the word ‘abortionist’ does not appear in the definition.

            Thanks!

          • Christopher Furlong

            Nor does anti-choicer. Good job.

            I guess you are not a human either!

          • Christopher Furlong

            I think it is time abortion clinics hire armed guards.

          • Bravadu

            1) who will pay for them
            2) assailant could bypass them with a concealed weapon
            3) or assailant can take out 2-3 of said armed guards with a concealed weapon before they responded
            4) guns are easy to get. use the gunshow loophole or the private sale (aka craigslist) loophole. NRA is against closing said loopholes

          • Christopher Furlong

            4) Illegal guns sellers should be hunted. An extra couple billion in tax dollars could pay for this.

            Join the NRA.

            1a) The government. Armed military guards. This is terrorism, after all.
            1b) The abortion clinics get together and share the costs of hiring professionals, which will, of course, increase the cost per abortion.
            2) True, this is not fail safe, but armed guards with training, body armour and strategy would be formidable.
            3) See above.

          • Bravadu

            1a) Congress will pay to guard PP clinics in which reality? Or are you best friends with Paul Ryan?
            2) You’ll need at least 4+ guards at all times per location, because a gunman with the element of surprise can take out 2-3 guards initially. Assuming it’s a lone gunman.
            3) See above

          • Bravadu

            “4) Illegal guns sellers should be hunted.”

            Your point is pointless due to the private sale loophole. Private gun sellers are not required to perform a background check before selling a firearm. Thus there’s no such thing as “illegal gun sellers”

            Same thing with gun shows. No background checks there.

            So what were you saying about “illegal gun sellers”?

          • Christopher Furlong

            Over 53,500 individuals currently have “Type 1” federal firearms licenses, which allow them to act as firearms dealers, and over 7,700 individuals have “Type 2” licenses, which allow them to buy and sell guns as pawnbrokers

          • Bravadu

            It is legal for guns to be sold by unlicensed “private” sellers in many states. Like me and you.

            Nice misdirection attempt there.

          • Ahhh, wingnut logic. Very nice.

        • CriticalThinker

          The only murdering was done by a Christian terrorist psycho killer with a gun. This is a medical clinic where young mothers go to have abortions.

      • haltdenmund

        If by mass murder you mean industrialized abortion on demand, then it would appear you are the one excusing mass murder here.

  • Tom Street

    He announced to the police, “no more baby parts”. This article is insane. How much more evidence does one need as to the motive. There seems to be a subtle attempt to divert attention from the entire anti abortion movement.

    • Donald Mack Flippin

      Perhaps the fellow is not opposed to abortion. Perhaps
      he was just opposed to the selling of body parts of babies
      that have been aborted?

      • Christopher Furlong

        Fetuses are not babies. Please use the dictionary to learn about the definition of the word ‘baby’.

      • There is no such thing as “selling body parts of babies.” Turn off the Faux News. It’s rotting your brain and causing people like Dear to kill. Who knows? With your insane lies you may be the next nutcase with a gun who acts on Carly and the rest of the wingnuts lies.

        Given your wild lies, I think you should be looked at before you go off. Do you have an NRA sticker on your pick-up?

        • Christopher Furlong

          NRA? I think you should be arguing in favour of arming our abortion clinics not arguing that the NRA is always crazy.

          • I was a member thirty years ago when they were still sane. After Ted Nugent and the rest, not anymore. They should be shut down as the anti-government terrorist operation that they are.

            They yell fire where there is none all the time like President Obama is gonna come for your guns. Get real, the NRA is run by wingnuts, for wingnuts.

          • Christopher Furlong

            We need, as liberals, to arm, infiltrate, and steer it back to the constitution. The constitution clearly says regulation of arms and militia is constitutional.

          • CriticalThinker

            It says people have the right to bear arms. It doesn’t say people have the right to have any ammunition for their arms.

          • Christopher Furlong

            I think that may be a right by inference.

          • CriticalThinker

            Robert Dear thinks he has the right to kill any young women who don’t share his xenophobia by inference but he is wrong.

          • Bravadu

            Even if everyone was armed with a gun, a gun nut can kill at least 2-3 people with a concealed weapon before anyone knew what was going on.

            Imagine if you gave everyone who stepped into a mall a concealed weapon? Do you think the mall will be safer or not?

          • Christopher Furlong

            Are you thinking abortion clinics should not have metal detectors?

          • Bravadu

            Even with guards and metal detectors, a lone gunman should be able to take out 2-3 guards with the element of surprise. More if there’s more than one gunman.

          • Christopher Furlong

            I would assume such guards would be handsomely paid experts who would operate behind bulletproof glass and be on guard against being ambushed / the element of surprise.

          • Bravadu

            handsomely paid by the anti-choice groups that incite this violence? Sounds like a win-win situation for said groups

          • Christopher Furlong

            An abortion clinic is not a mall. It is a relative small space that can be fortified.

          • Bravadu

            Yeah, at what cost? What’s the tab going to be like and who would pick it up?

          • Christopher Furlong

            Great question. I think this could be paid for by government as this qualifies terrorism. Otherwise, the clinics will have to pay.

          • Bravadu

            I also think that it qualifies as terrorism against the rights granted by Roe vs Wade, but good luck getting this particular Congress to do anything about it.

          • CriticalThinker

            It is accepted that the NRA are always crazy. They are just KKK without hoods.

          • Christopher Furlong

            The NRA is only crazy because its lack of membership. Eliminate this lack of membership, and the organization will be reliberalized. Better yet, liberals should create a similar organization to promote responsible gun use. The influence from the millions of new guns purchases could be then used to bear down on the gun manufacturers for a robust regulatory regime state to state.

          • Bravadu

            The NRA represents first and foremost the gun manufacturers and not gun owners at large.
            For example, keeping the gun show loophole open does not serve legal gun owners, but the NRA has been fighting hard to keep that loophole open.

          • Christopher Furlong

            See above.

          • Bravadu

            I don’t think the NRA is fixable from within… not with the gun manufacturers funneling tens of millions of Dollars to the NRA

      • CriticalThinker

        There have been 232 attacks by right-wing Christians at abortion clinics over the last year. This is just one more.

  • Squirrel

    Of course, the phony “Center For Medical Progress” set up to fake evidence against Planned Parenthood will deny any responsibility for this.

    • Rosa1984

      Then why did PP apologize from the very beginning? They KNEW they broke the law. And why did PP agree to STOP selling dead babies’ organs and tissue?

      • dale ruff

        PP continues to sell tissue when directed to do so by people who have abortions to advance medical research to save lives. PP is not breaking the law, they did not apologize and they still provide tissue for research.

        Who is lying to you and why do you believe them?

      • Christopher Furlong

        Fetuses are not babies.

        • ron cee

          Whatever gets you through day.

          • Christopher Furlong

            I have absolutely no problem getting through the day, but since you have millions of murdered Iraqis on your conscience, you must have real trouble getting through the day..

          • Thomas Hood

            It is amazing to me that you have such deep feeling for the Iraqi dead yet ignore the mass murder now being perpetrated in Syria by the American Liberal regime.

          • Christopher Furlong

            I do not ignore it. Hillary was a young Republican who supported Barry Goldwater, and most dems support such wars anyway. Hillary is as guilty as the next Republican for getting involved for no good reason.

          • CriticalThinker

            Hillary? don’t make me laugh. It was your half wit Bush and his corporate ventriloquist, Cheney who were fully responsible for murdering half a million Iraqis in the name of your God. No real Christian could have perpetrated such a crime.

          • Christopher Furlong

            I am not Republican, buddy.

          • CriticalThinker

            So you call yourself a Christian and have no strong repugnance at what crimes were perpetrated in Iraq? You are not a real Christian.

          • Thomas Hood

            In your Liberal fantasy you suppose that I call myself a Christian. When compelled to give a religious preference, I call myself Confucian. You’ve no idea how round and broad the world is, nor have you any idea of the 1000 hours I spent studying under Iraqis and Kurds.

          • CriticalThinker

            Like most Christians you are full of it.

          • Christopher Furlong

            And?

          • CriticalThinker

            Christians were responsible for murdering half a million Iraqis and molesting hundreds of thousands of innocent children. They are hypocrites.

        • Thomas Hood

          Liberals, like your admitted self, use different words to obfuscate and confuse ethical issues. A baby is at one end of the continuum, an adult at the other. A baby is genetically complete at the moment of conception. It needs only time to grow, and the growth continuum continues outside the womb, hopefully in a home not dominated by Liberal self-indulgent philosophy. Abortion breaks the continuum of life, which Liberals do not respect. If its parents are normal, it is welcomed before its presence becomes known. If its parents are perverse or child-support evaders, then Liberal death apologetics supports the abortion of this inconvenience. Baby-killing becomes a so-called personal choice, though in reality the choice is seldom the woman’s but from pressure from boyfriend, family (abort it, or we will put you out), friends, or Planned Parenthood propagandists.

          • CriticalThinker

            You can believe what you like but never try to impose your obsessive beliefs any another person. Christians don’t have that right.

      • Okay Rosa. Post the link. Do not post a link to Breitbart, Daily Caller, or Faux News or Rush Limbaugh. Post a link from a reputable place. The let’s take a look at your information in detail.

  • wolftongue

    Carley knows why he did it.

  • Robin

    Unknown? That’s ridiculous.

    • RichardOwens

      Lawsuits defense attorneys will cite the “who knows?” meme.

      • Robin

        Our society is collapsing. From the lowest to the highest, nobody values integrity or honor or authenticity anymore. We’re in serious trouble.

  • Rosa1984

    Even people who are Pro-Choice feel P.P. should have been held accountable for breaking the law. Not only did PP apologize right away, which is admission of Guilt— they agreed to Stop selling dead babies’ organs and tissue.
    They got off easy. And Taxpayer money still flows into PP.

    • Robin

      What does that have to do with a terrorist attack?

      • Rosa1984

        There’s no mystery why the mentally-ill shooter did what he did.
        There’s no excuse for it either.
        However, a lot of Americans feel PP should have been shut-down for breaking the law.

        • Robin

          So what? A lot of Americans think Bush and Cheney should be in jail for crimes against humanity too.

          • Rosa1984

            Taxpayer dollars are still funding PP.

          • Thomas Hood

            You are right, pervertedly: Liberal twisting of laws has no end. For thousands of years, abortion was been a medical crime. Were society and mass media manipulations sane, it still would be. Abortion was sold to the American public as a way to control the Black birth rate — pure liberal inverted racism.

          • dale ruff

            PP provides birth control,which reduces abortions. Do you want more,illegal,and dangerous abortions?

          • Thomas Hood

            I want the elimination of public financing (my tax money) of Planned Parenthood abortions and the selling of aborted baby body parts. If people want birth prevention, they can get it from any doctor or pharmacy, or practice abstinence, and I don’t have to pay for it.

          • Christopher Furlong

            And we want you to stop funding the murder of foreigners globally. You are a murderer via taxes..

          • Christopher Furlong

            A real murderer, via taxes, of individual, real people who qualify as people via the millennia old definition of what constitutes a person.

          • dale ruff

            Why do you want to end public financing for cancer screenings and birth control, which prevents abortions? Public money is not used for abortions.

            You have a right to your opinion but most Americans support public financing for birth control for those who cannot afford it in order to prevent unwanted pregnancies and abortions.

            I urge you to work to change the policies on public financing of birth control. I urge you to practice abstinence, a policy which has been so successful. Perhaps you can team up with abstinence advocate Bristol Palin.

          • Christopher Furlong

            Yes, and for thousands of years women aborted, illegally, because it is their body, the fetus is attached to them, not men, and the fetus is not a person. Law over the past 1000 years is very clear as to what constitutes a person.

          • dale ruff

            But not for abortions. ARe you against cancer screening and birth control which prevents unwanted pregnancies?

          • Rosa1984

            Funny, you had to go back almost a decade or more to find an example.
            Obama should be held accountable for lying to Americans about ObamaCare., which is imploding all by itself.

          • Robin

            Your grandkids will still be paying for the hundreds of billions Bush gave to his cronies in no-bid contracts for a war based on LIES. Funny how so much death and profit rolls off you psychopaths like water off a duck.

          • Thomas Hood

            Obama should be held responsible for the introduction of Ebola and Islamic terrorists into America. He should be held responsible for the mass destruction of Syria. He is the modern symbol of Satanic liberalism. Harvesting baby body parts is a small issue with such cannibals.

          • dale ruff

            ARe you trying to incite more mass murderers?

          • dale ruff

            Not really. It has provided healthcare to over 10 million Americans, and the rise in healthcare costs is lower than in many decades. There is no implosion except in your brain.

          • And they should be. The rule of law is quite clear on that point. As is the rule of law clear on a woman’s right to decide what grows in her own body. These wingnuts would be happy to outlaw abortion, put in back in the back alleys, and then cry about the resulting abused and destitute children that would arise out of such folly.

            Thomas Hood may be the next wingnut we see on the nightly news shooting up some Planned Parenthood. He needs to be checked out to make sure he is not a danger to himself or others, he has made the threat right here in this thread that he wants to see “people swing.”

            Hood is one deluded sick and twisted individual.

          • Thomas Hood

            I am honored. I do not want the approval of Michael Hess, ISIS, Planned Parenthood, the Turkish Grey Wolves, Al-Qaeda,the Free Syria Army, Al-Nusra, and various Liberal cannibals, and would be ashamed if I had it.

        • Thomas Hood

          PP, like ISIS, should be shut down for its crimes against humanity, and I want its leadership to swing in the wind.

          • Proof positive that you need to be in a rubber room and your property needs to be searched and denuded of whatever weapons you have to cause trouble with. It’s like watching an analog of that crazed animal Dear right here in this comment thread. Urban Twist should provide your identity to law enforcement before you go out and kill people based on your delusions.

          • Thomas Hood

            Unlike you murderous, child-support evading Liberals, I’ll carry no woman to an abortion clinic unless she was forced.

        • dale ruff

          They did not break the law. Providing fetal tissue for medical research is not a crime. Who is lying to you?

    • Thomas Hood

      Why doesn’t the baby have a choice?

      • dale ruff

        A fetus is part of a woman’s body and only she has the right to make decisions about it. Babies are independent individuals, with rights, and are not part of a woman’s body. In the case of a woman’s body, it is the woman and not a mass murderer or politicians who control it.

        • Thomas Hood

          By current Liberal perverted law, you are right. However, a fetus is not just part of a woman’s body. It possesses the genetics of its father and is a future member of society, and I feel an obligation to protect it, whether it is in the body of my woman or some one else’s. Do you honestly think I am wrong?

          • Christopher Furlong

            A fetus not a future member of society unless a women decides to bring it to term. The father is irrelevant at this point.

            This is the way it has always been. Abortions preceded legalization.

          • Thomas Hood

            You don’t know history. Abortion was a crime for thousands of years until Liberal perversion liberated us from compulsory child support.

          • Christopher Furlong

            Yes, and they happened regardless of this law. Why? Because women control their bodies and fetuses are not people.

          • You are one sick guy. Child support is federalized cowboy. No one can escape it. Secondly, anti-abortion laws NEVER worked, it only forced them to be performed by BUTCHERS. It is the law of the land and good luck with changing Roe v. Wade, the law of the land, because more than 65% of REPUBLICANS support a woman’s right to decide what protoplasm grows in her body.

            It’s still illegal to kill, actual babies or Planned Parenthood health providers. Keep that in mind as you are cleaning your rifle.

          • Thomas Hood

            You’ve no idea how easy it is to avoid paying child support, which is the main reason for abortion. A man who can pressure his woman into abortion (like George Bush, Jr.) evades child support payments. A classmate of mine avoided child support for his several children by going to Europe until his children were above the age of 18.

          • Yes, I think you are wrong and dangerous. It is people like you who are helping to cause these incidents of domestic Tea Bagger terrorism.

          • Thomas Hood

            Ah, Michael, but Liberal terrorists like you kill thousands for every one killed by a conscious-stricken wacko. You folks have chosen death, and the quicker you get there, the happier I will be.

      • Because it is not a baby. Someone should take a close look at you and what kind of weapons you carry around in your old pickup truck. You may be the next nutball to go off because of ignorance of the English language and just plain common sense. You scare me and hardly nothing does.

        • Thomas Hood

          If only I scared you enough they you stopped wanting the murder of babies, then my life would be more worthwhile.

    • dale ruff

      You are repeating lies. No public money funds abortions. 97% of what PP does is cancer screening, birth control, etc. You need to revolt against the people lying to you before you do what Dear did.

      • Christopher Furlong

        Hi Dale,
        Please stop making stupid arguments. Fetuses are not babies. Do not accept their assertion that a fetus is a baby. It is not.

        • dale ruff

          Reread my comment. I agree with you. Calling people who agree with you stupid is a sure way to fuck yourself.

          • Christopher Furlong

            Not at all. I am pointing out that you seem to be accepting his redefinition.

          • dale ruff

            I find your comments incomprehensible. One thing I got: your resort to personal insults in the absence of a coherent comment. With all due respect,fuck off.

          • Christopher Furlong

            Nah, I bad words do not phase me. Again, every time you accept her definition, you damage the standing of Roe vs Wade.

          • dale ruff

            You are totally confused. A fetus is part of a woman’s body and decisions belong to the woman; a baby is not, and, being an individual, it has independent human rights.

            I concluded you cannot read well and do not know when you are not welcome.

          • Christopher Furlong

            Hey, I said the argument is stupid not you. Why do you so easily fling ad hominems?

            This is not a house where you welcome people in for a cup of coffee, Dale. My point still stands.

          • dale ruff

            When someone says don’t bother me, and you continue to bother them, that is harassment. I made my position on the difference between a fetus and a baby very clear.

            You wrote: “Please stop making stupid arguments. Fetuses are not babies. Do not accept their assertion that a fetus is a baby. It is not.”

            I never said that. You misstate what I said 100%,then call it a stupid argument. You are boring and annoying. Don’t bother me.

          • Christopher Furlong

            “You are repeating lies. No public money funds abortions. 97% of what PP does is cancer screening, birth control, etc. You need to revolt against the people lying to you before you do what Dear did.”

            “Even people who are Pro-Choice feel P.P. should have been held accountable for breaking the law. Not only did PP apologize right away, which is admission of Guilt— they agreed to Stop selling dead babies’ organs and tissue.They got off easy. And Taxpayer money still flows into PP.”

            STOP SELLING DEAD BABIES.

            You did not call her out.

          • dale ruff

            PP gets 500 million a yr from the govt-.none is used for abortions. Fact
            Fetus are part of a woman’s body. Babies are not.
            Your confusion motivates murder.

          • Christopher Furlong

            You are assuming people are reading all of your comments. They are not.

          • dale ruff

            How do you know? You are saying what you wish to be true. And facts do not depend on whether people read them or believe them.
            Go away: you are boring and annoying.

          • Christopher Furlong

            No.

            Don’t make stupid, weak arguments.

          • dale ruff

            I am stating facts.I will leave the verbal abuse to you. Go away.

          • Christopher Furlong

            I stated that the argument is stupid; therefore, there is no “verbal abuse” of which to speak.

          • dale ruff

            There was no argument, just facts.Calling an argument stupid IS verbal abuse,no matter how you try to rationalize it. No stop harassing me.

          • Christopher Furlong

            Yes, I suppose calling an argument is verbal abuse AGAINST THAT ARGUMENT.

          • dale ruff

            You can call an argument I did not make stupid but that would be very stupid. I cited facts:

            1.:No public money funds abortions. 97% of what PP does is cancer screening, birth control, etc.

            2.PP gets 500 million a yr from the govt-.none is used for abortions. Fact: Fetuses are part of a woman’s body. Babies are not.

            That is not a stupid argument because it is not an argument; it is a statement of fact. I will point out you stated several lies: PP has not been charged with any crimes…it continues to provide fetal tissue if the woman from whom it comes so requests for medical research; it has not apologized for providing fetal tissue.
            So you are repeating or creating falsehoods. That is also not an argument but a fact.

            So you are guilty— if not of verbal abuse– of stupidity since you are criticizing me for making a stupid argument, when all I did was state facts.

            If you can’t distinguish facts from an argument, there is no point discussing. So let’s not.
            Again, please stop bothering me.

            Here is final fact: STOP SELLING BABY PARTS! is close to what the mass murderer in Colorado yelled: NO MORE BABY PARTS!

    • Christopher Furlong

      Planned Parenthood killed babies? Babies as in infants mothers brought to term? If they killed actual babies, and not fetues, to harvest for organs, then PP should be shut down!

      • Thomas Hood

        PP should be shut down for being an instrument of Liberal perversity.

        • Christopher Furlong

          You should be jailed for supporting murder through war.

          • Thomas Hood

            Like Thoreau, I should be in jail for not resisting the horrors created by Liberal-dominated American society. Well, nobody’s perfect.

          • Christopher Furlong

            The same goes for your lack of resistance to the various Republican led wars, with the qualifier than foetuses are not babies.

    • Thomas Hood

      They got off easy because Liberal perversity rules in America. There is no justice for anyone who favors life over death.

      • Christopher Furlong

        Since you are murderer of millions of Iraqis via taxes, I will assume it is impossible for you to receive the justice of which you write.

        • Thomas Hood

          I am more concerned about the murders by TOW missile of Syrians now. Hopefully the Russians will save me from my feelings of guilt and shame.

          • Christopher Furlong

            Yes, and that is the problem. You do not worry about the millions of Iraqis you killed via taxes.

            millions of Iraqis is much, much more than 130 French..

          • Thomas Hood

            I agree with your arithmetic but not your ethics, You have chosen death. You are just an enlarged fetus, and by your own ethics, deserving of abortion.So go abort yourself and leave the rest of us who favor life alone.

          • Christopher Furlong

            You have chosen death. Killing millions of Iraqis based on a lie is the greatest perversion. Thou shall not kill (people).

            I am not a fetus. Foetuses are, by definition, attached to a female.

          • Christopher Furlong

            You have chosen death. You have supported the murder of millions of Iraqis via your taxes, and by your own ethics, deserving of death by God’s law. So, go to Church, tell your flock what you have done, and leave the rest of us who favor life alone.

    • Christopher Furlong

      PP has not sold ‘baby parts’. They have sold foetal tissue for scientific use. There is nothing wrong here other than the man who shot three adults.

  • Thomas Hood

    His reason is not unknown. He aimed to put an end to the harvesting of baby body parts.

    • dale ruff

      Aborted fetuses are not babies. This is the lie justifies murder.

      • Thomas Hood

        Calling babies “fetuses” justifies murder? Jesus, If I called you a zombie, could I kill you with Liberal impunity. Calling names does not justify murder except to the Liberal perverts who believe that a control of language is a control of reality. Respect what is in the womb because you once were there.

        • Christopher Furlong

          My mother chose to have me. It is not a process that exists without the mother.

        • Christopher Furlong

          Different words exist to describe different objects in reality. A baby and a foetus constitute different realities. That is why they are described by different words.

  • TheOtherManWithNoName

    Hmmm! No clue as to motive? Let me guess, wacko, body parts, movies? It’s a living hallucination brought to you by the right wing nuts in our country, who are responsible as much as anyone for these kinds of crimes. Please! Don’t try to stand back and wash your hands again. This has been going on for years. Bombs, assignations, etc, whatever. Aboriton is legal in the USA. Give it a rest. This is not about free speech, when people are attempting to circumnavigate reality as anti abortionists.

  • dale ruff

    It was also unknown whether the attacks on 9/11 were directed at the World Trade Center.
    Possibly, the 7/11 around the corner was the intended target.

  • austintxman

    So will the group that produced the fake video about planned parenthood be held liable?

    • Donald Mack Flippin

      Your bloody, little god was CAUGHT. There was nothing fake
      about those videos.

      • Christopher Furlong

        Until they allow everyone to view the originals, they are fake.

        • Donald Mack Flippin

          Be careful, Chrisie – Your fake god will lie to you.
          Remember the 1st Chapter of the Book of Obama,
          verses 3 and 4? Quote: “If you like your insurance,
          you can keep your insurance. If you like your doctor,
          you can keep your doctor.”
          Also: Last year was the hottest year on record. You
          do believe that, don’t you, Chrisie?
          Sure you do!

          • Christopher Furlong

            Who is Chrisie? Never seen a butterfly on a Christmas tree? Jesus Christ wouldn’t have had trouble with that.

      • Bravadu

        They were heavily edited and it took them a long time to release the original.

        If I edit a video of Donald Trump so he says “I am Mexican”, then is he really Mexican?

        It’s like Breitbart cutting out relevant parts of the full video to imply that Shirley Sherrod was racist.

        • Donald Mack Flippin

          Keep drinking that Kool-Aide, and don’t worry if
          you begin to feel a bit of pain in the lower part
          of your stomach; it’s normal. Hee-hee.

          • Bravadu

            You’re the one drinking the Kool-Aide.

            Your posts lack substance or a point.

          • Christopher Furlong

            Guys, stop eating bananas!

      • Christopher Furlong

        If the original is edited in any way, we can conclude that it is trash.

      • austintxman

        Blood little god???????? Not sure what you’re talking about.

      • austintxman

        “Your god was fake.”
        Is that what you said Donald…. because that’s how the videos your talking about were edited.

  • Obama’s Recession

    It’s time for Obama to resign or be removed from office..

    The American economy is in free-fall, ISIS is targeting American cities, violence
    is breaking out throughout the US, and the Mideast violence is bringing us
    closer to WWIII. And Obama’s main concern is running to Europe to talk about the weather!!!

    Time to face facts: Obama is sinking into a delusional state bordering on insanity, and
    should be removed from office via the procedures outline in the 25th Amendment
    of the Constitution, which allows removal from office a president clearly
    judged to be “incapacitated,” mentally or otherwise.

    • Christopher Furlong

      We should jail you, even though your freedom to write nonsense is protected by the constitution.

      Bush allowed the jobs to leave for Mexico and China and Bush 1 & 2 invaded Iraq hence setting the stage for 911.

      LETS INSTALL OBAMA AS DICTATOR, TODAY!

      • Donald Mack Flippin

        And what about Syria, Libya, and Egypt? Hmmm –
        no one’s fingerprints on those except Hillary’s and
        Bath-house Barry’s.
        But you go ahead and install Yo’Mama as dictator,
        and we’ll see how that works out for you (and her).
        P.S. Best find yourself some safe space.

        • Christopher Furlong

          Sure, Hillary was a young Republican in her youth. Most Democrats are not peaceniks. Hillary is as guilty of murder as the next Republican.

          P.S. I am pro gun.

    • Bravadu

      “The American economy is in free-fall”
      Let me guess, you were born after 2008

      “ISIS is targeting American cities”

      And you think Paris/Brussels are American cities

      • Christopher Furlong

        This is a rather weak response. Stay on target!

  • CriticalThinker

    This article is headed ”
    Reason for Gunman’s Rampage Unknown”

    The heading is not accurate. The gunman said when arrested that there would be no more sales of baby parts.

    An accurate heading should be ” Right-wing Christian terrorist shoots nine at clinic.

  • Snake Plissken

    The only difference between ISIS and the terrorist who attacked the United States on Friday in Colorado Springs is he speaks English and his brand of religion differs slightly

    • CriticalThinker

      All religious people are delusional and think they have a special license to kill anyone who doesn’t believe their fantasies.

  • Becky Nagy

    I think that if more information was put out about the lives and agony that the research of the PP procedures and other medical research has made, the public would be more understanding of their own dependance on research.

  • gjdagis

    So people who don’t believe in abortion and who engage in peaceful protests are “extremists”?

  • CriticalThinker

    Christians can now officially stop calling themselves “Pro life”

    “Pro Xenophobia” is a more accurate term.

  • CriticalThinker

    Something that would be a step would be to have a bulletproof security door and buzz people in like they do at European banks and embassies. No one carrying an assault rifle would get in the door.

  • CriticalThinker

    The second amendment says people have the right to bear arms. It doesn’t say people have the right to have any ammunition for their arms. So let us start by banning 100% of all high caliber ammunition There will be absolutely no problem with the constitution.

  • CriticalThinker

    Vote for Carson representing the psychotic gun-wielding homicidal terrorist Party

  • Obama’s Recession

    Here’s the drill going on for the last several years:

    1. Some lone gunman shoots up a theater, meeting, etc.

    2. The progressive-left media assures itself: “This is the final straw–from here on the public will blame Republicans for the shooting and vote Democrat.”

    3. But each time the public sees the shooting as a manifestation of general chaos
    emanating from poor leadership at the top (the Democrat Obama), not a “gun problem.”

    4. The public votes GOP and against the Dems.

    Result: 1000 state, national, and local seats, lost by Dems since Obama took office.
    The GOP now controls most governorships, the House, and the Senate, and 68 of
    98 state legislative bodies.. If the GOP wins the White House, we will be speaking of the “late” Dem party. A new center-liberal party will have to emerge from its ashes.

    And this pattern will repeat itself this time, same as it ever was.

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